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Good stretch and so chic.
Soft rayon/spandex blend
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missleah16
When you get a chance can I please get the measurements of the inseam & waist line of the size large. I take a size 30-31 in jeans & just wanted to make sure these would fit (:
Aug 03Reply
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bellanblue
@missleah16 hi there. these are pre-order so I don't have them yet. but model is wearing size S and she's 5'8. the material is very very stretchy along with elastic waistline. these do fit true to size.
Aug 03Reply
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missleah16
@bellanblue thanks so much for letting me know! I'm debating whether or not to wait to buy until you receive them & are able to measure for me just to be sure even though they sound like they'd probably fit.:)
Aug 03Reply
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bellanblue
@missleah16 hi put these up to see if there would be any interest & plan to order once someone buys. They are absolutely gorgeous & from a local boutique near me. So once you order I can pretty much ship next day.
Aug 03Reply
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missleah16
@bellanblue ah I see... I really do like them but only thing is that's kind of alot of cash to spend on something I'm unable to check if they'd fit ya know... I'll definitely think about it though. Thank you for your time!:)
Aug 03Reply
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lapabon
@bellanblue do you have the smalls?
Aug 18Reply
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bellanblue
@lapabon hi there. yes I do.
Aug 18Reply
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lapabon
@bellanblue sweet and are you willing to take offers?
Aug 18Reply
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lapabon
@bellanblue it will be a reasonable price
Aug 18Reply
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bellanblue
@lapabon I am open to reasonable offers. go ahead and place an offer. let's make a deal! :)
Aug 18Reply
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lapabon
@bellanblue will do 💙
Aug 18Reply
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bellanblue
@lapabon thank you sweetie. I will ship out 1st thing tomorrow. you will love these! Have a wonderful day and weekend!
Aug 18Reply
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bellanblue
@missleah16 hey sweetie. I should be getting these in today. did you still want a pair?
Aug 18Reply
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lapabon
@bellanblue thanks so much can't wait 😊
Aug 18Reply
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missleah16
Probably :) thank you for letting me know!... if you don't mind whenever you get the chance would you please measure the inseam in a size large & the waistline from.aide to side laying flat? :)
Aug 18Reply
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bellanblue
@missleah16 sure thing. I should have it later today. will measure and tag you.
Aug 18Reply
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missleah16
@bellanblue thank you!! :)
Aug 19Reply
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bellanblue
@missleah16 hi I'm sorry. I'm still not home yet. But will do it when I do. Out at company dinner.
Aug 19Reply
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missleah16
@bellanblue no worries (: have fun
Aug 19Reply
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bellanblue
@missleah16 hi there. waist for L measures 13.5" laying flat, the waist is elastic and very very stretchy, inseam = 34"
Aug 19Reply
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missleah16
@bellanblue thank you so much! I really like them & then inseam is definitely long enough but I'm not quite sure the way line would be big enough unfortunately,nim pretty cut these days :/ lol. I'll double check by comparing them to some other stretchy pairs of pants & yoga pants u have though a little later :) either way I appreciate your time alot, thx again!
Aug 19Reply
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bellanblue
@thispresenttime hi Brooke! Yes size L
Aug 19Reply
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bellanblue
@thispresenttime I only have 1 pair left in L also
Aug 19Reply
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bellanblue
@thispresenttime yes open to reasonable offers.
Aug 19Reply
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bellanblue
@thispresenttime gp ahead and place your offer.
Aug 19Reply
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bellanblue
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barbcroom1970
What size number is a small?
Aug 24Reply
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bellanblue
@barbcroom1970 hi there. S fits 2/4. item has wonderful stretch.
Aug 24Reply
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bellanblue
@barbcroom1970 thanks for your offer but I would be losing money since posh collect a huge 20% commission. I am countering my best price.
Aug 24Reply
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barbcroom1970
@bellanblue you couldn't do 35?
Aug 24Reply
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bellanblue
@barbcroom1970 ok counter me back :)
Aug 24Reply
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bellanblue
@barbcroom1970 sweetie it's my last size S so counter back soon. I don' want someone else to buy.
Aug 25Reply
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barbcroom1970
@bellanblue I want a medium
Aug 25Reply
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barbcroom1970
Thank you
Aug 25Reply
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bellanblue
@barbcroom1970 you got it. Size M. I will ship tomorrow. have a good evening.
Aug 25Reply
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barbcroom1970
@bellanblue thank you and you do the same😊❤️
Aug 25Reply
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barbcroom1970
@taralynnboutik this is the boutique I got these from😊
Aug 28Reply
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taralynnboutik
@missleah16 haha girl...me n u def have the same style! Lol I see you all over items I like. Xo
Aug 28Reply
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taralynnboutik
@barbcroom1970 thanks Barb 😆
Aug 28Reply
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missleah16
@taralynnboutik haha... that's awesome. :p these pants are really cute huh, unfortunately even in a size large of these I'd have to hope they are EXTRA stretchy if I want them to fit over my "curves" (; lol
Aug 28Reply
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taralynnboutik
@missleah16 no way....what waist size is a large?
Aug 28Reply
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bellanblue
@taralynnboutik hi waist for L = 13.5 laying flat & super stretchy
Aug 28Reply
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turkoiculture
Love your closet!!
Aug 28Reply
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missleah16
@taralynnboutik .. what she said. Lol. All I know is size 30-31 are usually like 16"-17" laying flat. But that's not counting if stuff has any stretch to it so these would probably be alright actually. :) I can't remember if you said you take the same size in pants as I do or if your a little thinner than I am.
Aug 29Reply
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taralynnboutik
@missleah16 I am in the middle of losing weight now. When u and I started talking, I was a 10. I'm now wearing jrs 5 or 7. I can't believe it but I'm not complaining. When I bought a 9 in super cute jeans n they fell off, I was ecstatic. Then I ordered a 5 bc they didn't have a 7 in others n they fit. ..yes! They are really stretchy tho
Aug 29Reply
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missleah16
@taralynnboutik omg. Im jealous. You have to tell me how you lost so much weight so fast!
Aug 29Reply
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taralynnboutik
@missleah16 stress and pretty much just eating rice cakes and peanut butter
Aug 29Reply
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hrdrssr1
@bellanblue ❤️❤️❤️wish style was in a dark denim!!
Sep 06Reply
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bellanblue
@livinthedreem hey there! Live your bundle. It's my last M for all 4 items. Just FYI. I can ship out tomorrow.
Sep 10Reply
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mc429
Any mediums left?
Sep 24Reply
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jadoreyou06
@bellanblue I love these so much! Might buy them this week!! 😍
Sep 24Reply
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bellanblue
@jadoreyou06 hey girl this is my very last pair. sounds good. but if you do change your mind and want to buy today, I can get you reduced shipping since it's closet clear out today.
Sep 24Reply
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bellanblue
@mc429 hi yes I have 1 pair of M left.
Sep 24Reply
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jadoreyou06
@bellanblue ok girl!!
Sep 24Reply
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bellanblue
@jadoreyou06 did you want me to set you up?
Sep 24Reply
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jadoreyou06
@bellanblue thinking about it! If I buy them it will probably be Wednesday! I have shared them several times! I just love them lol 😌
Sep 24Reply
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bellanblue
@jadoreyou06 sounds good sweetie. :)
Sep 24Reply
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bellanblue
@mc429 mary I can get you lower shipping if you are ready to buy now. let me know.
Sep 24Reply
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jadoreyou06
@bellanblue 🙂
Sep 24Reply
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mc429
@bellanblue I'm ready to buy the M if still available!
Sep 25Reply
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bellanblue
@mc429 hi there! yes it is. let me make you a listing with reduced shipping.
Sep 25Reply
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bellanblue
@mc429 ok it's ready for you. go ahead and buy this listing.
Sep 25Reply
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mc429
The price said $36 I think then switched when I purchased?
Sep 25Reply
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bellanblue
@mc429 I had to drop the price to trigger reduced shipping for you. but the price is $42. that's how you trigger the reduced shipping, have to lower and then change back. :)
Sep 25Reply
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mc429
@bellanblue ok, thanks
Sep 25Reply
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