These were always a little too tight on me. I have a wider foot so I literally have never worn them out. They’ve sat in my closet for over 10 years. They’re very hard to find like most of these shoes that I’m posting never worn great condition like new great pricesmoke free stain free pet free home any questions? Please ask. I do take reasonable offers trying to liquidate to save money for my daughters education thank you and have a nice day.