Used condition John Sneaker. I’ve had these almost a year and they were my go-to casual sneaker for comfort and style for several months. Priced based on condition. I accidentally wore them while working on an art project, and paint landed on the right shoe and will not come off. Shoes and laces got the paint. I’ve cleaned up both shoes and laces since and have worn a few times, but I’m now grabbing for my new P448s, so I decided to sell. Paint is permanent - based on my attempts to remove.