I bought these shoes new quite a few years ago but never found myself using them much. I put about 30 miles on them and have mostly had them put away for the last several years. They are a firm, snappy shoe with some stability for overpronators (liked a trimmed down Wave Inspire if you know/like that shoe). Personally I need/prefer more cushion and stability underfoot. Could be a great speed day shoe if you train in stability shoes though. They have a ton of miles left in them.