I bought these Kyoto from the Birkenstock website for full price, just haven't managed to wear them (too worried about wrecking the suede, silly). Never worn outside the house, only tried on. Still kind of love them. Birkenstock Kyoto velcro sandal Size 41 women's 10 mens 8 Regular wide width Regular hard footbed Mountain View Green Suede Nubuck Leather Like new with original box in good condition I'll throw in a can of Crep suede protector that I never used, if you want. Open to questions and offers.