Both of these very cool Alpaka gear bags/packs/slings/crossbodies (your choice of names) up for grabs today. I believe the grey is called elements and is about 9' x 6" and about 3 1/2" wide. The black is called Vertex & is about 9" x 7" and a little wider (almost 4") and it opens into a desk caddy, too. Both are in x-pac (one is black and one is gray) with top of the line YKK aqua-guard zips, both with a killer easy to find things premium orange lining, each with its own strap (inside each pack), both are in excellent condition (used but very very little), & both certainly have no major concerns. And the best part....both for less than the price of just one! I package well, ship fast, and enjoy seeing nice gear that is just sitting in my closet going to a good new home. Thanks for looking, too.