My mother was in a size 12 briefly when she lost weight these are slightly less new than the sz 14 bundle I have (those are pretty crisp). This bundle (sz 12 and stretchy) are lightly broken in, just to thenpoint of softness. I see one itty bitty spot (the size of a pin head) on the mint green (picture with my finger points it out for absolute transparency) but I have an eagle eye. Most people would never see it. I will likely have more so let me know sizes you are in need of. weight loss journey women supporting women thrifty bundle Gloria Vanderbilt Amanda eco friendly keep it out of landfills