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I POSTED THIS BANNER RIGHT AFTER THE LIVE SHOW ROLL OUT WHICH WAS NOVEMBER 2022.. I STILL HATE LIVE SHOWS AND WILL NOT PARTICIPATE, WHICH IS MY CHOICE AND SHOULDN'T CAUSE SALES TO DIE.. I'M A SMALL CLOSET, THIS IS NOT HOW I MAKE A LIVING AND HAVE NO PLANS OF EXPANDING. I SELL ITEMS FROM PERSONAL CLOSETS THAT ARE NO LONGER WANTED.. SOME NEW AND SOME PRE LOVED. I REALIZE MANY RESELL TO MAKE A LIVING SO, SINCE THE MANY MONTHS THE LIVE SHOWS ROLLED OUT, IT'S "ALLEGEDLY" NOW QUICK AND EASY TO GAIN LIVE ACCESS. JOIN A POSH AND SIP TO GET BUMPED UP IN LINE (THAT'S WHAT THEY SAY NOT ME) IF UR NOT COMFORTABLE ACTING A FOOL LIKE MOST OF THEM, DO SILENT SHOWS TO BUMP UP UR ALGORITHM AND GAIN MORE TRAFFIC IN UR CLOSET. I GET PEOPLE WANT TO UNITE AND COMPLAIN, I WAS ONE OF THEM, BUT THATS SOMETHING EVERYONE DID LAST YEAR. IT'S BEEN 7 MONTHS. AND UNFORTUNATELY LIVES ARE HERE TO STAY..AGAIN, LET ME BE CLEAR, I LOATHE THE LIVE SHOWS. THEY'VE ATTRACTED SKETCHY SELLERS AND SKETCHY BUYERS, BUT LETS TAKE A DEEP BREATH AND MAKE THE BEST OF IT. PLEASE USE THIS POST TO VENT..LEAVE WHAT UVE EXPERIENCED..HECK, LEAVE IDEAS! THERE IS NO RIGHT OR WRONG HERE!!
ALL THE BEST., UR FELLOW POSHER, DIANA❤️🌹
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playitagainpm
@giftoftheeagle You're too kind!!! I relisted the banner so u can leave ur comments!!♥️🌹
giftoftheeagle
@playitagainpm Thank you for doing this!
giftoftheeagle
Yea guys we ran out of room on our last "venting" thread so post your frustrations here. I've stopped sharing my items temporarily while I think about what to do. Sales are really slow due to the live shows. One poster from our other thread that ran out of room said she has started posting on the M site and had 12 sales in two days!
giftoftheeagle
@tikigil100. Hi girl. Loved reading your posts on the "venting" thread. That thread ran out of comment room so heres the new thread to comment.
playitagainpm
@stuffromatoz I appreciate all ur shares, but I'd appreciate it more if ud share my items..thanks
playitagainpm
@stufffromatoz please read the above comment..thanks
playitagainpm
@stufffroma2z I appreciate all ur shares but I'd appreciate it more if ud shares my items available for sale.. thanks
stufffroma2z
@playitagainpm sorry about that, I wanted to spread the word. I have a complete dislike for “live shows”…but I will share your listings if you share mine 😎
playitagainpm
@stufffroma2z I hate lives too.. so many others do too BUT they aren't going anywhere, unfortunately!
reebs54
@giftoftheeagle I feel the same way
giftoftheeagle
@reebs54 Hi felow Poshers. Those doing lives, please don't start your bids at $3.
When you do that you are working for Poshmark for Free! Poshmark basically has figured out how to manipulate you into literally giving them slave labor, in the name of building your business. please let us unite so that all starting bids on Posh start at $10. That way All of Poshmark benefits.
reebs54
@giftoftheeagle Thank you for speaking up about this. Please do not start bids too low. u need to make a profit. You are worth more than that: time, all the effort you put in to photos, carefully cleaning, steaming, displaying, taking measurements, running shows or sharing your closet, packing and shipping, this is all work! Who is working for $3?
giftoftheeagle
@reebs54 Such a good point! Thank you for your voice too!
dottyiam618
Last live I looked at was a guy wearing short shorts and. Tshirt sitting with his legs open, looked diseshelvd, talking and stuffing his mouth with a sandwich at the same time. I couldn't get out of there fast enough.
playitagainpm
@dottyiam618 CRINGE!!
giftoftheeagle
@playitagainpm Hi There playitagainpm! I was wondering how do you create a banner that stays underneath the heading with writing as you have done? Thanks sooo much!
playitagainpm
@giftoftheeagle On this one, I just used the editing feature on my phone in my photos. I just added the text.. and for a couple others I can't remember what app it was.. let me look I lnto that and let you know what app
asydne
I find that the same ppl are doing lives. There is no opportunity for new lives. Not sure why I’m viewing back to back by some closets.
asydne
@giftoftheeagle
habbelobbe
My sentiments exactly. So, the algorithm…I thought, hey I’ll give the silent show a try. Not one buyer. Had 3 people on once and no one the second show. Ugh.
playitagainpm
@habbelobbe its the same people over and over again doing shows.. I'm not interested in crusty LV bags or anyone's outdated fashion from a pallet
giftoftheeagle
@asydne I wonder if people are finally getting tired of lives. It seems like people are starting to cluster to certain people doing lives. So many shows look like they will have only 4 or 5 people attending. They are told to " build their business" and that in time things will look up. Whenever they sell for $3, they are working for Poshmark for free, like an indentured servant.. No freedom there. Start your lives at $10 and raise everone's boat. 💜💚💙💛
asydne
I really don’t understand the process of the dealers. You have ppl that are having live parties selling other Poshmarkers items. So I can’t get a live but I can pay one of these ppl that have all of the book shows to sell my items. Please explain how this works. Posh gets a cut, the person doing the show gets a cut, the tax man gets a cut. Is this even a legal job?
giftoftheeagle
@asydne question from reddit "Do people get money for simply hosting Poshmark live shows?
I’ve tried googling my question before and I cant seem to find an answer. I’m wondering because I’ve seen this one specific live that happens once a week where this woman will host a “yours, mins, and ours.” She doesn’t sell any of her stuff but will literally sit on the live auctioning off other people’s stuff for HOURS. Part 1
giftoftheeagle
Part 2: So my question is, does she get money for hosting a show? Does she get a cut of the profits from what other people are selling? I can’t understand why she would sit there for literal hours (seriously 2-3 hours) doing this if she wasn’t making money herself?
i believe the answer is No. They get exposure for their own closet.. And Also a little celebrity.
Can someone who does live share shows answer this question? Thank you sooo much!
playitagainpm
@giftoftheeagle They don't receive any $$. What they do gain is more followers, closet exposure and lots more viewers in their shows.
giftoftheeagle
@playitagainpm Hardly seems worth the time! Working for free! Poshmark employing slave labor. But Wait! Maybe they want to be Enslaved! But Wait Again! Some of them are good hearted souls really wanting to help others by doing Yours And Mine Share Shows, Which go on for hours! But Ultimately the results are the same. Poshmark Enslaving People! And People Working for Free.
giftoftheeagle
Push back People! Start your Auctions at no less than $10. Lift all Boats!
playitagainpm
@giftoftheeagle people do share sows to gain clientele.. they shares and in between, they run there own stuff.. I understand the anger, but that's business.. My gripe is small closets, THAT HAVE NO INTENTION OF EXPANDING THEIR CLOSET OR GOING LIVE, should still be able to consistently make $$ They should push lives AND closet selling.
holymoonlight
thank you. can't stand posh shows.
bookbug30
@habbelobbe I had the same experience!
crissih22
@playitagainpm Omg! I totally agree with what you have said. I complained to Poshmark and I HATE those live shows, I wish they would remove them or make another platform just for them. My sales have too slowed down because of them. I wish you all the best and tons of sales! Have a beautiful blessed day! Crissi 😊
playitagainpm
@crissih22 I HATE THE LIVE SHOWS!! All the stuff to you, Crissi! Diana
giftoftheeagle
@playitagainpm Live shows are very time consuming. You have to prepare, and then sell. It takes hours of time. And sometimes you might only have 3 or 4 shoppers attending. If you share for someone else to share your item you have to be at the show, during the time your item shows. Also time consuming. People please start your items if you are doing lives at $10, as you will Raise your boat AND everyone else's too!
kaysuniverse
@playitagainpm Diana, I appreciate you taking the time to post this. I don't care for LIVE shows either. And you're right... the sales have been noticeably slower for us Posh Ambassadors since the live shows began. There's another big issue with poshers who don't take this seriously. I have experienced this personally, so I'm not claiming sumthin I've heard... it's a fact. Many poshers won't respond to offers or comments about a listing. This's very offensive to the perspective buyer. I myself
kaysuniverse
@playitagainpm have made an offer several times only to have it expire and have had my questions ignored about a product that I was interested in purchasing. This kind of behavior gives PM a bad reputation to newcomers or lazy shoppers. Poshmark definitely needs to start deleting closets or suspending access to those who have "No Activity" on their closet for more than 30 days without being put on vacation mode. I believe this had turned away potential
kaysuniverse
@playitagainpm shoppers. As a mostly Resale Community, we can not afford to have this kind of negative customer service.
kaysuniverse
@crissih22 agreed
kaysuniverse
@giftoftheeagle those are great ideas we need a online suggestion box 😆 Lol
playitagainpm
@kaysuniverse I agree with you 100%!!
kaysuniverse
@playitagainpm gurl have you experienced this too? it's very upsetting. 😡
kaysuniverse
@playitagainpm each time it happened I wanted to leave seller a comment letting them know how what they're doing is hurting all of us. instead I didn't... but I unliked the item and bought from sumwhere else.
playitagainpm
@kaysuniverse I've experienced so much on here. so much, I'm not even nice anymore..
kaysuniverse
@playitagainpm Lol😆 yep I get it believe me. I used to tell ppl things that wud help out cauz as Posh Mentors thought I was supposed to but most of them got upset. Some ppl can't handle constructive criticism.💯
giftoftheeagle
@kaysuniverse Mmmm something interesting on the news yesterday. Poshmark ABRUPTLY closing up shop completely in India, Australia, and the UK. People not too interested in Poshmark's Crap anymore. Not enough business there apparently!
kaysuniverse
@giftoftheeagle wow I didn't know that... maybe their reach was a bit too far considering it's not easy money like they claim in advertising. I wudnt call Posh crappy tho it just takes dedication and serious buyers/sellers. this community used to be so awesome... itz still okay but there are a few things Posh team cud do that wud help us ambassadors gain more business. 🤑
giftoftheeagle
@kaysuniverse Poshmark, Poshmark, Poshmark, won't you listen to the people? We don't like your live shows. Separate the platform into two separate apps. Don't make people work for free. Raise the minimum bid to $10. Stop your greed and selfishness by forcing live shows on us.
70sgurl
@playitagainpm, thanks for posting this forum. I have actively sold on PM for a year now. This is a retirement hobby for me, and a way to downsize my closet. I have no desire to buy pallets of goods and do shows with 5 attendees. To me the shows have diluted the value of most closets, and told new poshers and visitors that they can get items for dirt cheap. I have listed on other sites with some success, but would rather stay in one place...this is supposed to be fun!
playitagainpm
@70sgurl MY pleasure! this isn't how I make a living either.. everything in my oset is from personal closets.. it used to be super easy to sell now everyone wants to be a reseller!
70sgurl
@playitagainpm, I wondered about slow sales, I wasn't imagining it! Thanks again,and take care!
playitagainpm
@70sgurl Sales are slow for so many!! No worries.. thank u for stopping by!
julesb75
How do you promote your closet if you don’t do lives? I feel like so many people are buying overpriced junk and I am practically giving away items that are in excellent or new NWT condition. What gives?
playitagainpm
@julesb75 You promote ur closet by sharing it.. This what all sellers did prior to love shows... sales were great! with the lives, established closets died, and Joe owns off the street is making bank off the trash being sold on lives.
giftoftheeagle
Hey fellow Poshers, so Poshmark has a new tool in beta called Promted Closets with a free trial, and they want all USA closets to sign up. This means when they say free trial that there will be a fee involved on a monthly or yearly basis or maybe per item basis for buyers to see your closet.
giftoftheeagle
So this also means that unless you pay to have your closet seen, you're already dead closet will be even deader then it is now. May be the last straw for me.
giftoftheeagle
Hey fellow Poshers, just found the trial to have your closet promoted is anywhere from $30 a week to $90 a week. Maybe fellow Poshers if you are using the trial which I heard was a two week trial you could let us know what you think? Thanks!
chrismbc
I’ve been on here for like 7 years or some unbelievable amount of time. Sales were amazing and it was tons of fun selling and really meeting people. Then, PM went public and sales DIED. Bots appeared and women who kept calling me honey, darling, beautiful, whatever 🙄. Then came the live shows, which I don’t plan on doing (who seriously has time?), and now Beta. PM already takes 20%, I lose profit offering discounted shipping, I am most certainly NOT paying them to promote my closet.
chrismbc
I’ve invested literally hundreds of hours self-promoting and promoting other’s closets, FOR NOTHING. I will continue to participate the old way, but I’ve definitely backed off of this platform. The pay is the same as charity, without a tax break.
lorigugg
💯 agree with everyone! 💜💫
susanjacobs465
Totally agree!! Thanks 🤠⛄️!
swathottie63
@chrismbc I'd like to talk about scam/catfishing through PM. Do not do any transactions outside of the app no matter how appealing. Do not!
rebekahwants
@giftoftheeagle great idea! Thank you for this thread, and this information. I just started selling and now understand what you are saying! Wow much harder to get it posted in parties… it’s seems at least. I’m trying sharing and shopping all day! That part I don’t mind. Just want a fair shake, and honesty! Poshmark used to be a haven for me to insure quality and love. Best of wishes! ❤️🙏❤️
giftoftheeagle
@timsouza Yea a recently saw the CEO giving an interview on Poshmark, trying to really push live sales. Heres the thing, I personally am not interested in securing Pallets, (the expense, physical labor, extreme time consuption, and worry about everything selling) to sell on Poshmark.
giftoftheeagle
Also the fact that I joined Poshmark not to have another job, but to make money while I sleep
(side hustle) and that has been pretty much destroyed by the current owners, whom I don't think understand the desire of Americans to NOT work as hard anymore, but to have more life
work balance.
giftoftheeagle
Yea, so sadly, I still sell, but am shutting down my closet slowly, as Poshmark's vision is not my vision, as closets are not thriving in this new enviroment, only live shows matter, and closets are in the dungeon.
giftoftheeagle
@singingcicadas I sold some stuff locally and have even considered building my own website. I find eeeeebay clunky and difficult to list on. Plus I know many people pay extra to have their item seen. The M site is just slow to sell and offers no video.
giftoftheeagle
So I am selling off my inventory on Posh, and moving on to other opportunities that I find on Ticcccc Tokkkkkk and other places. I have really enjoyed my time on Poshmark, especially before the live shows. But for me this was supposed to be a make money while you sleep, which it was before the live shows.
giftoftheeagle
Now it is much more of a job, which I want to avoid. Well wishes to all of you!
giftoftheeagle
Also, if your on your own shipping can go first class, which most things can easily go first class for about $5 and is still trackable. The Cost of Shipping now a days is very out of control.
giftoftheeagle
Also, I have noticed Poshmark is advertising a lot right now on TV to get new people to sign up. A sign perhaps that Closets like mine are becoming inactive, dropping out, closing, or leaving.
An increased rate of advertising usually means something, perhaps a sign of desparation?
giftoftheeagle
@singingcicadas Thanks! And Thanks for Speaking Out!
lorigugg
Hi everyone! There are no more selling fees over on M. Just wanted to share as I know times are tough, and the shows really hurt everyone! 🫶🙌
lorigugg
@singingcicadas Hi, I wanted to share that M isn't charging a fee anymore for good, they say! No more selling fees! Just wanted to share as I know the shows really hurt the closets! 🫶
lorigugg
@singingcicadas, you're so welcome hun! 💜
nik_feather
Agreed! I only sell from my own closet or from my family members’ closet. I’m not into live shows and making this like some of the MLM sales companies make their people do. Let’s just clean out our closest, make a little money and help the environment through resale!
playitagainpm
@kittykox 100% agree!!
giftoftheeagle
@playitagainpm So Poshmark has been constantly Advertising Since January. A death Spiral? Maybe. Live Show Burnout? Too many inactives/leaving? Definately shows the need to replenish active users. May also indicate frustration that we didn't latch on like Asians might.
giftoftheeagle
But the need for advertising may also indicate a cycle such as described above. And if they can replenish with enough active users they may be qble to keep the cycle going for awhile, until the new users experience the same burnout. With each Cycle it will get harder for Poshmark.
princesutton
@giftoftheeagle I listed dozens of items on M. Got zero sales in a month. I stopped. Not worth the effort. Any other platforms anyone is having luck with? Appreciate the forum and all the great insights I gain from all of you. 🌸
giftoftheeagle
@princesutton Hey there. I am glad you are commenting. I am seeing Posh still advertising on Tv on the daily. which is interesting. So Poshmarks need for fresh people must be great because they always end with download the app now....... For myself, I am no longer really active, I do check for sales and still shoot them off into the mail.
giftoftheeagle
But for the most part have moved on to other interests.....
princesutton
@giftoftheeagle Thank you for responding. I appreciate it. I’ve only been selling for about nine months. When they started the closet promotion, I did the trial. I saw sales double. Now I pay $20-$30 a week to promote. It’s definitely too much money, but without it, my sales and views drop off the cliff. I’m retired. I have too many clothes so I thought it would be nice spending money...
princesutton
@giftoftheeagle I’m so frustrated with people offering 50% or more off the list price, which is already 20-60% off. If you decline, they post nasty messages on the item. Much of this comes from sellers. Or when they do buy, they want to return for reasons Poshmark rules say are not legitimate. But P refunds their money anyway even when you can prove what they are saying isn’t true. I am as sweet as pie to everyone. The nasty comments bring me down. Thanks for your kindness. 🌼
princesutton
@singingcicadas I liked those days too. I still have a store on e, but my sales are minimal. Their promotion costs are way too high. I ended a couple items early when I jumped back in on e last year (not realizing that wasn’t OK) and they downgraded me from top seller even w/💯positive feedback. I can’t find most of my items when I search on e now. I tried M for a few weeks. No sales. 🤷♀️
princesutton
@singingcicadas e shoppers rarely make offers. They just pay the list price. It’s a totally different environment than P. Neither seems to have the right platform for sellers. When my closet is a bit more empty, I think I’ll stop and go back to donating. It’s just not worth the hassle. Have a great summer. Best wishes for reasonable sales. 💐
giftoftheeagle
@princesutton Happy you commented. Yes It is hard now to make sales, partly the economy and high shipping costs and Posh's high commission fees, and Posh's Pay To Play Fees. But also competing With Live Shows. The live shows are basically a job with little reward instead of a side hustle as was once the case. Posh still adverises daily on Tv begging people to download the App. There is an apparent need to recycle more people.
giftoftheeagle
Hey Posh Friends. Anyone Else having trouble getting paid? Posh keeps telling me they have sent a verification code which never shows up. I email them about it and they say their emails are going through fine. They have responded only once. I keep emailing them asking them to verify me a different way and they just don't respond. Can't get paid. Please advise if you know what the issue could be? Thanks Posh Friends!
lorigugg
Hi, I'm coming to vent again. I sold a few items to someone who received the order on the 24th. Then she placed all of the items in her closet, showing "drops on the 27th," so she's obviously accepted the items but doesn't want to pay for them until the 27th!? I don't feel like this should be ok!? Has this ever happened to any of you?
lorigugg
@giftoftheeagle Hey hun, yes, this just happened to me. I reached out to poshmark and gave them the other poshers e mail, and told them they hadn't paid and it's been past the three day. They looked into it and released payment to me. I described in detail, though. The name of the item, her email name, the date. 🩵
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