These are size 8.5 BUT they have been put through the dryer (thanks to my husband 🤦🏼‍♀️) so they ARE slightly shrunk, see photo you can see how the heel is slanting in. So I’d recommend them for someone who normally wears an 8 in this style. I was planning to sell them because they don’t fit after my pregnancy and so was washing them to sell when they had that accident… Price reflects this.