These have never been worn outside. Purchased through Re-Bryr. Part of the sample sale. Small brown spot next to size 38. It’s an imperfection in the wood, I think. This may be why they were in the sample sale. Bryr recommends you size up if you are a half size in their worker type clogs. So if you are a 7 1/2 or an 8, these size 38 are for you. I’m a 7.5 and these fit me comfortably. I’d say they would also fit an 8. Ultimately just not my style.