I love, love, love these pants. I own them in 32 but now need a 33, not 34! These are too big. If you’re wondering about these, snag them. You won’t regret. They are not as wide as the workwear forge hemp line and they are heavy but not too heavy fabric. I can’t say enough how much these are rad and the original product of Patagonia. Check out the history of the stand up pants. There’s a tiny dot on the pant (see pic). I’ll throw them in the wash again. I have only washed these once and I air dry & iron. These were worn around the house and maybe once outside and (unfortunately for me) decided to posh them due to its fit on me. I can’t find these online right now so good luck finding one your size.