So I bought these online and didn't realize I already had a pair. I just kept them and thought I would wear them anyway. I have not. Did a dumb thing and threw away the box and moving apparently the toe got rubbed. Not sure how or if it was that way originally because these boots are distressed. Any way I bought these when I was a weight of 225 and some big calves and they fit. Top of shaft measure 17" not stretched. My pair of born boots like these are very comfy and loved. Want someone to enjoy this pair. I think I ordered them from Nordstrom's but not for sure. :-)