These small cross body bags are excellent for anytime you don't want to carry a huge bag. Plenty of room for cash cards, and an ID window. The zipper pouch on the brown bag has a key holder that fits in the bag. Room for meds, or lipstick, and mirror, etc. The black bag is what I call refined. It has, an extra zipper pocket on top. Someone refined this bag and added the gold chain to the strap. It is similar to "Mina" bags. except for the smooth leather with harlequin type stitching on body of bag. I have never carried this bag as I bought it before the brown one. Both of the bags are LN. Both are the 8" x8". With long adjustable strap. These have been packed away in tissue paper for 6 to 8 years. Both bags New cost close to $150. each. Give these bags a new home for only $60.00. Not each, but one price of $60.00.