These are the best MH pants they have ever made. They no longer make the Cederberg from what I see on their website, but much better than the Hardwear AP pant they offer now. They are thicker and hold up better and just fit phenomenally like all of their stuff. Nice logo on the back right leg, nothing too flashy. And, these are the only pants they had that have enough belt loops to actually hold up your pants.. only getting rid of because I have 4 other pairs! Have been worn/washed 10-15 times. 3 different colors. One is a dark brown, one is navy and the other is a light khaki. ALL ARE 42Wx32L and were all purchased from MH website! Again, these are the best pants they have ever offered. Look up Cederberg online and read reviews if you don’t believe me. They will bring them back eventually!