Reposhing this item I purchased from @debbyrnbsn7. Loved it, but had to stop spin classes after only a few months of purchasing these. I purchased Shimano clips which are included. Super comfortable shoes and for some reason I got tons of compliments at spin classes for this shoes. Always were socks and aired them out in the sun when I got home from class. I am a sz 7 and just bought them because the seller listed it as a sz 7 so I initially reposhed it as a sz 7, but a Posher brought it up to me that the sz shown on the shoes corresponds to 8.5. I did find them loose on me when I got them and wished they were at least 1 sz smaller but they worked for me with thick socks and making them as tight as possible with the dial so I didn’t question it. I say all of this because I am now confused on the sz since I cannot imagine not questioning it if they were really an 8.5. So I feel that a 8 with socks and a 8.5 without socks might be more realistic. Questions? Leave a comment below!