Please note- first photo is from Jesse Kamm website and model is wearing a different wash that includes gold thread. This pair is a different wash and does not have fold thread. All other photos are mine. Worn a couple times, just don’t reach for them. Amazing brand and amazing color. Never washed but haven’t worn enough to stretch them or form them. waist flat is 18.25, rise is 14 inches, and inseam is 31 inches. These are 225 pants (not sailors)-- HTF size and wash.