The Coach Tia Red Patent Leather Slip on Loafer is a stylish and comfortable women's shoe in size 8.5. Featuring a solid red color, round toe shape, and slip-on closure, these loafers are perfect for casual occasions during the summer, fall, and spring seasons. Made with high-quality leather, both the upper and insole materials provide durability and a luxurious feel. With the classic Coach Signature product line, these loafers are a fashionable choice for any woman's wardrobe. These have several scruffs and spots where the patent coating has been wiped off. On a scale of 1-10, I would say these are a 3.5.