When it comes to warmth Kamik is hard to beat. I have sold 2 pairs of these. One to a posher in Alaska and one in Michigan. Cold weather people that know what boots they need to keep their feet warm and toasty!! If you find anything else in my closet, you are interested in please make a bundle. I will give a discount on mult vs iple items being ordered. I do try to keep my prices lower than most. I do not do this to make a living. I am simply trying to raise money to pay for my daughter’s college. Smoke free and cat free home