M - Mammut lightweight stretchy climbing pants

NWOT believe they are Manmut Talc full length climbing pants. Colour is dark grey brown - not the stock & artificial light rich red brown. They’re a few years old but rarely if ever worn, just washed a few times, lol (too big) Gorgeous silky soft, stretchy material (93% nylon, 7% spandex - lightweight and quick dry). REI says 3/4 version good for indoor and outdoor walls, yet so well made and comfortable, wear for whatever (though not winter weight if you’re thinking for outdoors). Size label is 38 (mammut is Swiss). I peg them around a 6/8 so… medium? Waist 15”, adjusting to 14” with Velcro and elastic inside waistband (pictured). However, this feature could be for fine tuning the fit as opposed to made to fit 14-15” flat. They are way too big for me and the waist made as small as possible added bulk and was less comfortable. Would rather make use of the belt loops had the rest of the pants fit. (But they don’t, are too big all over, so perhaps none of this matters? However, FYI…!) Rise 8.5” (low side but not notably low). Inseam 31/32” (cinch elastic to shorten / get out of the way) Leg opening 9” Thigh at brush loop 11.5” Thanks for looking :)