My loss is your gain. Unfortunately, I've fallen on hard times, and I need to let this bag go. It is my precious pride and joy.It's a gorgeous stunning bag and a show stopper, every time I wear it. It complements any western outfit and would be amazing at NFR or any rodeo or night out. LAV is the original and pioneer modify LV bads with lots of leather fringe. The shoulder there, the drop is twenty-five inches. They honor a lifetime guarantee to replace the leather. If you ever need it, and this bag was completely refurbished in 2023. It has the original signature inside on the front flap from the LAV owner. Normal wear on the inside of the bag, as it is a vintage piece. It actually could be shipped back to LAV and you could have a turquoise concho added to snap closure. This is truly a unique one of a kind bag, and they feature an example of it on the home page of their website. Please feel free to ask me any questions that you have. I'm so sad to see this bag go but know you'll love it. LAV dust bag included.